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MEED – traditional knife fighting in Berlin

MEED (knife) is traditional armed combat with forearm-length objects such as knives, axes or sickles.

Only a few things are known about the ancient Pahuyuth knife warriors, as they preferred to move in the shadows and operated covertly behind enemy lines. They often carried only simple hand or tool knives, which enabled them to infiltrate enemy positions and defeat the enemy from the inside.

The specialty of MEED is to turn the opponent’s weapons him him or use random objects from the environment as improvised weapons. For this reason, MEED-warriors in civilian life are usually unarmed, which is also part of their traditionally handed-down shadow warrior codex.

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„Knives are like the claws of a predator and not like the sting of a bee.“

Typology of MEED

MEED-Warriors traditionally live by the principles of improvisation and letting go, which are part of their unwritten code. The special feature of the MEED is to take advantage of the opponent’s weapons and turn them against him or to use random objects from the surroundings as improvised weapons.

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MEED-Warriors are not bound to a certain type of knife, axe, sickle or to their own weapons. They neither cultivate a special weapon culture nor do they carry one with them in everyday life. In civilian life they are therefore usually not recognizable as MEED-Warriors.

The fighting style of MEED

For as long as a MEED warrior has not yet taken possession of a suitable object, he will choose a rather passive form of combat similar to LING LOM. If he already has a weapon, he will not keep it very long. During the fight he will try to switch between different weapons and even between weapon types to confuse his opponents.

Distractions and deceptions are an elementary part of this fighting style. The skill of an experienced MEED-Warrior in handling the blade is often compared with that of a magician who cheats his opponent out of a fair chance to win or with a predator who reveals his claws only when he slays his prey.

Knife throwing techniques

Another special feature of MEED is the throwing technique, in which any knife-like objects are used as throwing weapons.


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It is historically handed down that Pahuyuth Free-Warriors made hand-long throwing spears from branches or bamboo canes, whose tips were charred to harden them. In case of enemy contact they were thrown at the enemy. Injuries caused in this way could under certain circumstances be decisive for the battle.

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A Free-Warrior from Bang Racharn. Pahuyuth knife fighters are not tied to a specific type of knife, hatchet, sickle, or weapon. Instead they use random objects from the surrounding as improvised weapons.

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Knife Fighting Techniques

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MEED students of the basic level (green belt) learn 146 basic techniques.

Technical Manual

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The Pahuyuth Compendium contains the 146 school techniques of MEED.

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The Pahuyuth Compendium is the new technical handbook for the basic level. It contains the basic techniques of MUAI, LING LOM, MEED, MAI SAWK, DAAB, GRABONG and SABAI.

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The shadow warriors of General Tak Sin

After the destruction of the capital Ayutthaya by the Burmese in 1767 AD, the Thai people spread over the country in several groups.

Accused of desertion and treason, General Tak Sin and his remaining 400 men (including Pahuyuth Free-Warriors) decided to reunite the five largest Thai groups.

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The General was a good fighter himself and had always been in close contact with the Pahuyuth Free-Warriors. Since his retinue was very small, he ordered to form special units of about five to six men or as lone warriors.

These were trained in different weapons, but always carried only small hand or tool knives with them to remain undiscovered. Only at direct enemy-contact, they overpowered its opponents and disappeared again in the darkness. They were often dependent on using improvised weapons or instrumentalizing the weapons carried by their opponents.

This strategy, very unusual for that time, was a success. The general and his warriors succeeded in defending themselves against the Burmese and reuniting the Thai tribes. At the turn of the year 1767 Pra Jauw Taksin founded the new capital Thonburi and was crowned king of the Thonburi era.

By accepting and training regular soldiers at that time (under Praya Jaggrie), the guerilla tactics of the Pahuyuth Free-Warriors and fragments of their knife fighting style (MEED) found their way into the later Thai military.

Even today within the discipline of MEED it is still considered an ideal to be familiar with all types of weapons, but no longer have to carry a weapon. The guiding principle for Pahuyuth knife warriors is: The weapons are brought by the opponent.


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Demarcation from knife self-defense

Pahuyuth students who choose the discipline MEED learn traditional knife fighting according to the traditions of the ancient Pahuyuth Free-Warriors. Since this kind of fighting was created for war purposes, it is only suitable for legal self-defense to a very limited extent.

Self-defence (also against knife attacks) is according to §32, paragraph 2 of the Criminal Code of the Federal Republic of Germany:

“… the defense required to avert a present unlawful attack from oneself or another.”

It follows from this that the preventive strikes (no presence) or continued counterattacks (no defense, no necessity, no averting) recommended in some self-defense courses, or even the use of one’s own knife (no defense) in the vast majority of cases are probably more likely to be classified as legally inadmissible, if not as an independent criminal act.

As representatives of a traditional knife fighting style, we dissociate ourselves from such practices and strictly distinguish between traditional customs (martial arts) and knife self-defense, which in most countries and cases only ever allows a necessary defense for the purpose of averting a current, illegal attack.

Further information about self-defense within the law can be found on our topic page.


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Letting go – knife throwing

The art of knife throwing is one of the core competences of every Pahuyuth knife fighter and has always been an integral part of the training in the discipline MEED. Just like most other Pahuyuth disciplines, there are some special features which distinguish this martial art from others.

No throwing knives, no ninja stars

Pahuyuth throws almost everything that is similar to a knife, except balanced throwing knives or throwing stars (shuriken, bo-shuriken, etc.), especially since the latter are forbidden by law in Germany since April 2003.

Throwing knives also have the disadvantage that their center of gravity is usually in the middle of the knife and they usually have a relatively high weight (sports throwing knives usually weigh over 200g). This gives these knives a very even and consistent flight behavior to which the thrower can get used relatively quickly.

bread knifes, screwdrivers, nails

In order to maintain the flexibility necessary for Pahuyuth Free-Warriors and to promote the skills of our students in the long run, we only use inexpensive everyday objects for knife throwing, such as discarded sandwich knives, steel nails, kitchen knives, screwdrivers, wood chisels, foxtail saws, Japanese spatulas, and much more. Of course, axes, hatchets, camping hatchets or tomahawks are also used if required.

We have captured some examples of knife throwing in Pahuyuth in the following video.


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Tutorial – How to make practice knives

If possible, members of Pahuyuth weapon fighting disciplines (knife, shield, sword, staff, scarf) always produce their training weapons themselves. Learning a weapon fighting style naturally requires the integration of foreign objects into the movement patterns of the own body.

The production of training weapons is a first step towards establishing a personal relationship with your own weapon and the respective weapon type. All training weapons, with the exception of scarves, are always produced in pairs.


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MEED in the context of Pahuyuth

PAHUYUTH knife warriors learn this martial art so that they will no longer need weapons of their own. The value of MEED lies above all in the formation of comprehensive knowledge and experience in the handling of hand-long weapons. Objects from which such weapons can be improvised are almost always within one‘s reach or are brought along by the opponent.

Equipped with the smallest of all Pahuyuth weapons, MEED practitioners have to rely on a particularly cunning combat style in order to survive. In order to achieve this they often resort to elements from LING LOM like ground fighting and grip techniques. Sooner or later MEED warriors are forced to learn other armed disciplines as well. This enables them to defeat swordsmen or staff warriors armed only with a knife.

PAHUYUTH knife warriors rarely learn only a single weapon discipline. This makes the MEED an ideal starting point for the study of AWUD (armed Pahuyuth). MIED-Warriors are in most cases excellently trained in evasive techniques and ground-based combat. This offers advantages for all other PAHUYUTH disciplines that should not be underestimated.

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PAHUYUTH includes seven different martial arts disciplines that can be learned individually and combined seamlessly. Learn more about the other Pahuyuth disciplines on our topic pages.

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Here we collect questions and answers about MIED, knife fighting, knife defense, Southeast Asian knife fighting and more. This section is under construction. If you have a specific question that has not yet been answered here, please send us an e-mail to [email protected].

MEED is strictly speaking para-military knife fighting. In earlier times, this type of knife combat was used in guerrilla operations by non-military combatants (the Free-Warriors). Fragments of MEED can still be found today in the curriculum of Southeast Asian Special Forces.

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  • Are you interested in topics such as MEED, knife fighting, knife defense, knife fighting training, knife fighting courses or bladed weapons in general?
  • You are already familiar with one or more knife combat types and are looking for a way to further your education?
  • You are an absolute beginner and want to learn knife fighting?

You want to learn MEED but don’t know where to start yet?

No problem! With the following steps, you can now immediately start your training and lay the foundation for your MEED training – free of charge, without obligation and anonymously. Just train when and where you want, without registration, without devices and as long and as often as you want. Just start!

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  • Step 1: Your first workout

    The 30 Exercises are our standard fitness training for beginners. Everyone has to get through this. We share this approximately one-hour workout for free on our website.

    We recommend that you take a look at the exercises and try to do them in order to get a first impression.

    Important: In order to start training with us it is not necessary to be able to perfom the 30 exercises perfectly in advance.

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  • Step 2: Your first techniques

    You can also learn your first fifteen fighting techniques for beginners completely free of charge and even contact-free from home.

    Just watch our instructional video from 1984 and practice the techniques shown. For this you need neither previous knowledge nor a special talent. Just give it a try.

    Important: In order to start training with us, it is not necessary to be able to perform these techniques perfectly in advance.

    ➔ To the instructional video from 1984

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  • Step 3: Start becoming a "no one"

    Pahuyuth is a method of close combat that was developed and used by paramilitary special forces, mercenaries and commando units (aka “No one”).

    Following the ancient traditions, we place a certain value to data protection and privacy and maintain a so-called “tradition of discretion” as part of our training. This means that we do not use real names during our training, but so-called Warrior-Names.

    Your brain teaser task: Start becoming a “no one” by giving yourself a pseudonym or at least thinking about who or what you would like to be for yourself or others.

  • Step 4 (optional): Register

    If steps one to three sparked your interest and you want more of this, then register with your self-chosen warrior-name either at our trial training in Berlin (up to 3x free of charge) or for our worldwide online training (in German and English). Details on the respective training formats can be found on the topic pages linked below.

    Pro Tip: If you have any questions about the steps above, please email us at [email protected]

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