MEED – traditional knife fighting

MEED (knife) is traditional armed combat with forearm-length objects such as knives, axes or sickles.

Only a few things are known about the ancient Pahuyuth knife warriors, as they preferred to move in the shadows and operated covertly behind enemy lines. They often carried only simple hand or tool knives, which enabled them to infiltrate enemy positions and defeat the enemy from the inside.

The specialty of MEED is to turn the opponent’s weapons him him or use random objects from the environment as improvised weapons. For this reason, MEED-warriors in civilian life are usually unarmed, which is also part of their traditionally handed-down shadow warrior codex.

A knife is like the claws of a predator …

Typology of MEED

MEED-Warriors traditionally live by the principles of improvisation and letting go, which are part of their unwritten code. The special feature of the MEED is to take advantage of the opponent’s weapons and turn them against him or to use random objects from the surroundings as improvised weapons. MEED-Warriors are not bound to a certain type of knife, axe, sickle or to their own weapons. They neither cultivate a special weapon culture nor do they carry one with them in everyday life. In civilian life they are therefore usually not recognizable as MEED-Warriors.

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As long as a MEED-Warrior has not yet taken possession of a suitable object, he will choose a rather passive fighting style like in LING LOM. If he already has a weapon, he will not keep it very long. During the fight he will try to switch between different weapons and even between weapon types to confuse his opponents. Distractions and deceptions are an elementary part of this fighting style. The skill of an experienced MEED-Warrior in handling the blade is often compared with that of a magician who cheats his opponent out of a fair chance to win or with a predator who reveals his claws only when he slays his prey.

A further special feature of the MEED is the knife throwing technique, in which any knife-like objects are converted into throwing weapons. It is historically handed down that Pahuyuth Free-Warriors made hand-long throwing spears from branches or bamboo canes, whose tips were charred to harden them. In case of enemy contact they were thrown at the enemy. Injuries caused in this way could under certain circumstances be decisive for the battle.

Knife handling


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The Pahuyuth Compendium contains the 146 school techniques of MEED.


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The Pahuyuth Compendium is the new technical handbook for the basic level.

It contains the basic techniques of MUAI, LING LOM, MEED, MAI SAWK, DAAB, GRABONG and SABAI.

The shadow warriors of General Tak Sin

After the destruction of the capital Ayutthaya by the Burmese in 1767 AD, the Thai people spread over the country in several groups.

Accused of desertion and treason, General Tak Sin and his remaining 400 men (including Pahuyuth Free-Warriors) decided to reunite the five largest Thai groups.

The General was a good fighter himself and had always been in close contact with the Pahuyuth Free-Warriors. Since his retinue was very small, he ordered to form special units of about five to six men or as lone warriors.

These were trained in different weapons, but always carried only small hand or tool knives with them to remain undiscovered. Only at direct enemy-contact, they overpowered its opponents and disappeared again in the darkness. They were often dependent on using improvised weapons or instrumentalizing the weapons carried by their opponents.

This strategy, very unusual for that time, was a success. The general and his warriors succeeded in defending themselves against the Burmese and reuniting the Thai tribes. At the turn of the year 1767 Pra Jauw Taksin founded the new capital Thonburi and was crowned king of the Thonburi era.

By accepting and training regular soldiers at that time (under Praya Jaggrie), the guerilla tactics of the Pahuyuth Free-Warriors and fragments of their knife fighting style (MEED) found their way into the later Thai military.

Even today within the discipline of MEED it is still considered an ideal to be familiar with all types of weapons, but no longer have to carry a weapon. The guiding principle for Pahuyuth knife warriors is: The weapons are brought by the opponent.


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Demarcation from knife self-defense

Pahuyuth students who choose the discipline MEED learn traditional knife fighting according to the traditions of the ancient Pahuyuth Free-Warriors. Since this kind of fighting was created for war purposes, it is only suitable for legal self-defense to a very limited extent.

Self-defence (also against knife attacks) is according to §32, paragraph 2 of the Criminal Code of the Federal Republic of Germany:

“… the defense required to avert a present unlawful attack from oneself or another.”

It follows from this that the preventive strikes (no presence) or continued counterattacks (no defense, no necessity, no averting) recommended in some self-defense courses, or even the use of one’s own knife (no defense) in the vast majority of cases are probably more likely to be classified as legally inadmissible, if not as an independent criminal act.

As representatives of a traditional knife fighting style, we dissociate ourselves from such practices and strictly distinguish between traditional customs (martial arts) and knife self-defense, which in most countries and cases only ever allows a necessary defense for the purpose of averting a current, illegal attack.

Further information about self-defense within the law can be found on our topic page.


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Letting go – knife throwing

The art of knife throwing is one of the core competences of every Pahuyuth knife fighter and has always been an integral part of the training in the discipline MEED. Just like most other Pahuyuth disciplines, there are some special features which distinguish this martial art from others.

No throwing knives, no ninja stars

Pahuyuth throws almost everything that is similar to a knife, except balanced throwing knives or throwing stars (shuriken, bo-shuriken, etc.), especially since the latter are forbidden by law in Germany since April 2003.

Throwing knives also have the disadvantage that their center of gravity is usually in the middle of the knife and they usually have a relatively high weight (sports throwing knives usually weigh over 200g). This gives these knives a very even and consistent flight behavior to which the thrower can get used relatively quickly.

bread knifes, screwdrivers, nails

In order to maintain the flexibility necessary for Pahuyuth Free-Warriors and to promote the skills of our students in the long run, we only use inexpensive everyday objects for knife throwing, such as discarded sandwich knives, steel nails, kitchen knives, screwdrivers, wood chisels, foxtail saws, Japanese spatulas, and much more. Of course, axes, hatchets, camping hatchets or tomahawks are also used if required.

We have captured some examples of knife throwing in Pahuyuth in the following video.


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Knife fighting training in Berlin

You are interested in knife fighting and want to start your MEED training at the Pahuyuth School in Berlin?

Pahuyuth has a traditional training concept with belt levels. The aim of our teaching methodology is to enable a sound and safe martial arts training in the physical as well as in the psychological sense. At the same time, it is intended to prevent dangerous knowledge from falling into the wrong hands and thus causing damage.

The entrance requirement for the discipline MEED is the Pahuyuth student status (green belt), which requires passing the entrance examination.

Admission to the entrance examination again requires participation in the trial student course.

Interested? Then visit our trial training page!

… and not like the sting of a bee.